win98se is generally ok (as far as Windoze goes! which is not saying much) - ME was dodgy one The 2.2.3 version is the one that is recommended for use on download board - dated 11 dec 2002 - should it still be there if known to be buggy ? Frances Coakley editor@manxnotebook.com - Web site www.manxnotebook.comReceived on Fri Jun 6 22:28:24 2003